Boat ID assistance please [likely solved, Hewitt 20]

Give the specs of the trailer sailers you know off and their pro's and con's
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Re: Boat ID assistance please

Post by radventure » Sep 2nd, '20, 21:18

zebedee wrote:Yachtworks is a funny business, great boats but he's definitely not a "people person", so don't be surprised if you don't get anywhere with him.
Tried again today (Yacht Works)..... nope.


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Re: Boat ID assistance please

Post by zebedee » Sep 2nd, '20, 21:45

I doubt recreational boat building and repairs are permitted activities at the moment.
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Post by radventure » Sep 2nd, '20, 21:58

This is very true. Damn COVID!!!

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Post by radventure » Sep 2nd, '20, 23:00

I found what looks like another one BUT, no details, Trading post ad long since gone and description as a "Private 6.0mt trailer sailer" :(
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Re: Boat ID assistance please

Post by zebedee » Sep 3rd, '20, 03:07

The universe is taunting you!
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Post by radventure » Sep 3rd, '20, 06:38

zebedee wrote:The universe is taunting you!
Will not be the last time either Image


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Re: Boat ID assistance please

Post by davem » Sep 3rd, '20, 12:07

Have you thought of chasing via the trailer ? Perhaps they could have records of the build ?

A quick search
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Post by Castle 610 » Sep 3rd, '20, 12:36

Pretty sure the castle 20 had a drop keel. Not sure if more than 2 were made.
Very sharp bow (under waterline) from memory.
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Post by radventure » Sep 3rd, '20, 12:48

davem wrote:Have you thought of chasing via the trailer ? Perhaps they could have records of the build ?

A quick search
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Worth a try! Didn’t think of that route. Cheers!


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Post by radventure » Sep 3rd, '20, 12:52

I spent a bunch of time on g00gle image search, with search variations of 20’, 20ft, 6mt trailer sailer, even adding Australia or New Zealand (never know)

Just the tradingpost image I posted above


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Re: Boat ID assistance please

Post by fritzelhund » Sep 4th, '20, 09:29

The boat in question looks like it was made by a small private boatyard at Victoria Point Queensland. Now defunct, but his boats had a good reputation for solid construction ( in wood ). She has the cabin lines and wide transom to make me think that. The boat builder made mostly Bay cruisers several still at anchor in front of the original birthplace.
This links to the approximate place of the old boat builder's shed. Sorry his name escapes me.

https://www.google.com/maps/@-27.583864 ... 312!8i6656

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Post by radventure » Sep 4th, '20, 09:44

fritzelhund wrote:The boat in question looks like it was made by a small private boatyard at Victoria Point Queensland. Now defunct, but his boats had a good reputation for solid construction ( in wood ). She has the cabin lines and wide transom to make me think that. The boat builder made mostly Bay cruisers several still at anchor in front of the original birthplace.
This links to the approximate place of the old boat builder's shed. Sorry his name escapes me.

https://www.google.com/maps/@-27.583864 ... 312!8i6656
It’s another lead! Thank you Image.

This boat is all glass, only has thin ply panels (covering floatation foam) added by a previous custodian


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Re: Boat ID assistance please

Post by radventure » Sep 4th, '20, 10:22

fritzelhund wrote:Sorry his name escapes me.
Was it ‘Don Hewitt’?


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Post by radventure » Sep 4th, '20, 11:07

The "Victoria Point" Boatmaker lead took me down the rabbit hole a little, but yes Don Hewitt appears with some digging. He possibly also races/raced Sharpies?

...anyways..... g00gling again led me here

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7129&p=73897&hilit= ... itt#p73897

The mystery of ID is pretty much solved. Now back to the "fix everything" tasks. Thanks again to everyone who's kicked in on this.
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Re: Boat ID assistance please

Post by fritzelhund » Sep 4th, '20, 11:26

Yes !!! That is the name buried in the very back of my mind.

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Re: Boat ID assistance please

Post by Davidjohn » Sep 4th, '20, 12:03

Well done TSP brains trust. "Now maybe we can all get some sleep" :D
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Post by radventure » Sep 4th, '20, 12:07

Only new at the sailboat thing, but from what I can gather there’s going to be plenty more ‘keeping me up at night’ things from this 20 footer!


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Re: Boat ID assistance please

Post by fritzelhund » Sep 4th, '20, 12:52

Glad to have been of assistance. These "heavy displacement" family oriented trailer sailers are now totally outclassed in performance terms by newer designs, but the wide transoms add form stability and that means comfort not speed. They are certainly not Rosses, Elliotts or Masrms.
The boat probably dates from the late 70s. My old Careel 18 has a build date of 1977 and is still going strong ( if slowly ) .. but I don't care. She gets me afloat at minimal $$$$. She is on her second trailer and third outboard. At the peak of popularity there were 95 different trailer sailer designs available in OZ.Now, hardly any. David Rose ( the Careel builder in Sydney ) used to say the greatest competition for sales was his old boats. The broad transom means that at any more than 15 degrees of lean you end up going no faster, just digging a bigger hole in the water. These old designs are quite bluff fronted too in comparison, that adds cabin volume.The local TS club used to offer a two day overnight race from Manly to Peel Island and return the following day. These old boats can barely do the distances in the set times, so were relegated to a "Classic Class".. code for BLOODY slow. But who cares.

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Re: Boat ID assistance please

Post by fritzelhund » Sep 4th, '20, 13:00

M. Radventure,
You might like to research Griffin trailer sailers. They have similar lines and are of similar vintage, and were aimed at similar markets. The Savage Nautilus design was about at the same time but much heavier, some even having an inboard diesel. Even they outrun my old girl.
Botteril Explorers are also of the same era, but smaller. Investigator 563's of about the same time are splendid little boats. At the peak of popularity with so many builders about, the offerings were somewhat regional. Designs popular and made in WA are rarely seen around here.

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Post by radventure » Sep 4th, '20, 16:10

Definitely lots to take in. I’m glad I reached out. The knowledge, thoughts and opinions offered up here are invaluable


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Re: Boat ID assistance please

Post by zebedee » Sep 4th, '20, 20:30

The universe has finished taunting you for the moment and has wandered off to select another victim!
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Post by fritzelhund » Sep 6th, '20, 11:30

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Egret ... 48!9m1!1b1

This is taken from near the old Hewitt boat shed. These could even be Hewitt bay cruisers on moorings.

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Post by radventure » Sep 6th, '20, 11:39

Lots of boats when you scroll around!

It’d be good to find out if the builder is still around.


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