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What a difference a day makes. Talked to local Hayman Reece agents at Miami Towbars. For our trailer the LDH would be $300, and HR make an arm for boat trailers, $200. But my new friend believes I need to put more load on the drawbar to reduce pitching so will try that first. Can't get enough by moving the winch post, so need to launch the boat and move the axle assembly.

My boat is 6m long and weighs about 900Kg, so need to move 300mm to get another 45Kg on my drawbar. Right ????
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bachus wrote: Oct 24th, '19, 15:15 If sold they come up on a regular basis. If you can avoid the chain types, the hooks for the chain types are harder to mount on outriggers like I have. From the following photo you can see where the outrigger brackets came from.
But note that the chain types have higher adjustment capability over what I have.

What I have is as follows:

WDH.png

This is advertised on Gumtree in Perth for $80 - about what I paid.
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/emu-pla ... 1231510214
Aha! it seems you need to make a tool to help with the task Jim. I have the chain type. The tool is basically a T welded to a suitable piece of iron. I have a large nut welded about 1/3 down the length and to that I tie a suitable piece of rope with a hook at the end. I rest the T on the trailer, slack down the hook and place it around the bar. Pull up with one hand as you choose the chain link to tension the bar. If you need photos I can take a couple for you to illustrate what I am describing. Errr! easy - piecey.
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Peridot wrote: Oct 24th, '19, 18:59 What a difference a day makes. Talked to local Hayman Reece agents at Miami Towbars. For our trailer the LDH would be $300, and HR make an arm for boat trailers, $200. But my new friend believes I need to put more load on the drawbar to reduce pitching so will try that first. Can't get enough by moving the winch post, so need to launch the boat and move the axle assembly.

My boat is 6m long and weighs about 900Kg, so need to move 300mm to get another 45Kg on my drawbar. Right ????
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Re arm. Yes I know about the Hayman Reese arm . . but I objected to paying that price for a relatively simple bit of steel. Hence my hack approach. Actual cost was $10 plus a bit of time (not much) as I already had the U bolt clamps.

Re pitching. I cannot comment On the difference this would make as I had a different tow vehicle when I moved the axle back and added weight to the ball. This was not done for for your reason but to remove weight from the overloaded factory axle. No difference with that tow vehicle (VW Touareg with auto levelling air suspension).
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Here is a photo of my Draw Bar setup showing the level rider. chain and the tool I described above.
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Wanton wrote: Oct 24th, '19, 19:35 Here is a photo of my Draw Bar setup showing the level rider. chain and the tool I described above.

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Yup that’ll work :-)
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It's got the same bar hangers as mine uses. I like the bar lifting tool.
If you've got override brakes, it is important that the bars are able to move fore and aft a short distance on the trailer to accomodate the coupling changing length. That's why the supports swing, or alternatively suspend the bars on chains.
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My calculations are flawed. I was originally thinking of moving the winch post so that would only affect the position of the boat. But I can't get enough so thought about moving the axle. I realise after sleeping on it that will affect the trailer as well so I have about 1200kg, not 900. I think that means 20kg per 100mm.

Zeb, our ute would have been about a 2001, 2.5 diesel turbo, 4WD. Had planned to bring it over with the slide-on on a carnet but it all got too hard. Bought a motorhome here instead.

Wanton, I like the simplicity of your crossbar, but I wonder about the importance of the length of chain. Tight turns must have the effect of moving the springbars for and aft. McHITCH say you need an extra fitting that has roller bearings but their website does not show where it goes. Supposed to eliminate creaking, etc, common with the LDH. Any thoughts ?

Will shift the axle first and see how it goes. Heading for NSW and we found last time the roads are much better than where we have been.
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I thought I had already sent this but can't find it so I'll try again. We have big trip coming up and I am thinking that a WDH set will be a valuable addition to the ride, if only to counter the porpoising. Jim, your outrigger arms look like a great solution to the lack of "V" but could you please give me a bit more detail about guages a d dimensions. Moody Blue mentioned the simile of wheelbarrow arms being further apart as steadying factor. How far is far when putting outriggers on the drawbar? I thought your photo showed a lack of "meat" but perhaps the stresses are not as extreme as I would have expected.
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Fridges

Jaycar have some interesting fridges for sale at the present time.

For example the 36ltr version, weighs 14kg empty, 36 month warranty, shop front store no online and if you use the "new email subscriber" code of bonus10 you get 10% off the listed price making it $360 delivered.
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Peridot wrote: Oct 25th, '19, 08:00 My calculations are flawed. I was originally thinking of moving the winch post so that would only affect the position of the boat. But I can't get enough so thought about moving the axle. I realise after sleeping on it that will affect the trailer as well so I have about 1200kg, not 900. I think that means 20kg per 100mm.

Zeb, our ute would have been about a 2001, 2.5 diesel turbo, 4WD. Had planned to bring it over with the slide-on on a carnet but it all got too hard. Bought a motorhome here instead.

Wanton, I like the simplicity of your crossbar, but I wonder about the importance of the length of chain. Tight turns must have the effect of moving the springbars for and aft. McHITCH say you need an extra fitting that has roller bearings but their website does not show where it goes. Supposed to eliminate creaking, etc, common with the LDH. Any thoughts ?

Will shift the axle first and see how it goes. Heading for NSW and we found last time the roads are much better than where we have been.
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eg:
15 litres, $199
22 litres, $299
36 litres, dual zone fridge and freezer, $399
Full range here.

But don't be tempted by the thermoelectric "cooler/warmer"; they're a dead loss as a fridge, no matter whether they come from some anonymous Chinese supplier on ebay or from Jaycar.
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zebedee wrote: Oct 25th, '19, 14:40 eg:
15 litres, $199
22 litres, $299
36 litres, dual zone fridge and freezer, $399
Full range here.

But don't be tempted by the thermoelectric "cooler/warmer"; they're a dead loss as a fridge, no matter whether they come from some anonymous Chinese supplier on ebay or from Jaycar.
And all at 10% off those prices . . . if you use the 10% discount given for giving them your email . . .
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Well, an email that works...
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Peridot wrote: Oct 25th, '19, 08:00 ......
Wanton, I like the simplicity of your crossbar, but I wonder about the importance of the length of chain. Tight turns must have the effect of moving the springbars for and aft. McHITCH say you need an extra fitting that has roller bearings but their website does not show where it goes. Supposed to eliminate creaking, etc, common with the LDH. Any thoughts ?

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As you will appreciate you can really lift that spring quite a lot. The trick is not to overdo it as as Zeb mentioned the goose neck will need to be able to move back and forth for the override brakes to function properly. I usually pull it up so leave 5 links from the lock to the spring. Don't ask me why 5, but it seems to work a treat for me.
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For tensioning the bars and chains, I just used to use an 18 inch length of 1 inch gal pipe slipped over the end of the bar, maybe these days I might need 2 feet or so!
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Free to anyone who can be bothered coming to pick it up. I'm in Ormond.
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Strikes me as a good thing, but I'm up in Sydney today!
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OK, I'm back from Sydney and nobody else has put their hand up!
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I'll give you a bell when I get a chance to pop over there!
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mob wrote: Oct 27th, '19, 16:52 Free to anyone who can be bothered coming to pick it up. I'm in Ormond.PA270333.JPG
Getting slow in old age.

MOB, any idea what that device is called or where you got it.

Just realised it ( a copy of ) would work with the bars I purchased from INMA.

Does not look too hard to make though.

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My neighbour is a rubbish removalist and that was from a garage clean out with some other trailer stuff. I had no idea what it was so asked around for a while, an old caravaner at our club told me what it was for. Perhaps you and Zeb can come to an arrangement.
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Bit of "Googling" and found them at Caravans Plus for $29 so ordered one.

Bars I got from INMA are two per side and the second ones are real finger biters.

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Careel 18 main and jib - $200 - Belmont NSW

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Pioneer 8 tender in Sydney; ebay auction starting price $250, no bids yet:

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