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Re: Cruising with dogs

Post by zebedee » Mar 26th, '20, 01:33

Peridot wrote:
Mar 25th, '20, 23:20
There was a discussion last year about a clamcleat for rudders that released under load. There was a name of a stockist but I can't find the thread. Anyone remember ?
The product is the Clamcleat CL257, though some places call it a C257. Search for either part number!

Ronstan are the Australian distributors for Clamcleat.
Whitworths (who have a branch in Cairns) list many Clamcleat and Ronstan products, but don't seem to list the CL257. I would expect they can order one in for you.
You can order one from ebay for about $40, which seems excessive, and they'd come from Europe.
Binks Marine in Adelaide want $28. Cost of shipping isn't obvious.
Adventure Safety in Melbourne want $31.16.
Deck Hardware in Sydney want $45.
Arnolds boat shop in Sydney want $26.17.
Boating Central, Geelong, $31.25.
Fishpond won't tell us where they are or how much they want, but they claim to have them.
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Re: Cruising with dogs

Post by bachus » Mar 26th, '20, 11:12

zebedee wrote:
Mar 26th, '20, 01:33
Peridot wrote:
Mar 25th, '20, 23:20
There was a discussion last year about a clamcleat for rudders that released under load. There was a name of a stockist but I can't find the thread. Anyone remember ?
The product is the Clamcleat CL257, though some places call it a C257. Search for either part number!

Ronstan are the Australian distributors for Clamcleat.
Whitworths (who have a branch in Cairns) list many Clamcleat and Ronstan products, but don't seem to list the CL257. I would expect they can order one in for you.
You can order one from ebay for about $40, which seems excessive, and they'd come from Europe.
Binks Marine in Adelaide want $28. Cost of shipping isn't obvious.
Adventure Safety in Melbourne want $31.16.
Deck Hardware in Sydney want $45.
Arnolds boat shop in Sydney want $26.17.
Boating Central, Geelong, $31.25.
Fishpond won't tell us where they are or how much they want, but they claim to have them.
Fishpond . . hum . . the name describes this site. They fish for suckers . . . beware.
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Re: Cruising with dogs

Post by Johny » Mar 26th, '20, 12:15

Peridot wrote:
Mar 25th, '20, 23:20
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Cut the hole in the boat, about 400 x 250, nothing in the way. Amazing.
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If you can I'd love to see pics and brief description of the repair as it progresses Peter. As the owner of a ply boat....
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Re: Cruising with dogs

Post by Peridot » Mar 26th, '20, 14:25

Arnold's Boat Shop is the name I wanted. CRAFT !!
As soon as I opened their site there was the cleat !
I had looked at it while we were down south but were a long way from a postal address for an online order. I did go to Whitworths at Crows Nest expecting to buy it off the shelf but no. They offered to get it in but we would have moved on by then. Waited until I got home, then could not remember Arnold's. Thanks for that.

Had planned when I went to Cairns to get the paint that I would go across the road to Whitworths and get the wind meter they have on special. Ordered it online instead, but they think the Atherton Tablelands is somewhere in the sticks and want $20 for postage to a remote address. Half the discount gone !

Nice to see all the activity here on what is normally a work day. A few forced into early retirement this week ?

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Re: Cruising with dogs

Post by Peridot » Mar 28th, '20, 22:01

I cut some cleats to go around the hole, and a piece of 7 mm ply. The hull is 5/16" (8 mm) 5 ply, but I have not tried to source that. It would only come in a full sheet but the 7 mm is 900 X 600 from the local hardware shop. It is clean radiata, exterior glued. The cleats are 43x19 finger-jointed and treated.

After fitting it all I treated it with Everdure, 3 coats. Then sanded to provide a key for Epiglue. Both expensive, but I have been using them for over 50 years and never found anything I like better.

The photo shows 2 cleats in place, screwed with 25x8 SS. $24 for 200 at Cairns Hardware, owned by Dahlsons.ImageImage

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Re: Cruising with dogs

Post by rseydler » Mar 28th, '20, 22:45

Keep going, keen to see how it turns out

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Re: Cruising with dogs

Post by Peridot » Mar 29th, '20, 22:07

Peridot was built in NZ and came to Aust in 1987. In those days West System was all the go, stitch and tape. So no keels or chines. Our first outing on the lake 10 years ago we hit something with the spade rudder and cracked the joint between the transom and the bottom. Cut part of the cockpit floor out and found a sealed compartment filled with pour-in foam. I hate that stuff. Cleaned all that out and strengthened the transom. Changed to a swinging rudder.

Which, by the way is 9.8 Kg, and has a Queensland red cedar blade. So it would be difficult to get it much lighter.

Decided to put 30 litres of plastic bottles in the back half and use the front half for spare ropes, fenders, etc. It had all been sealed with resin but I painted over that with oil based undercoat and enamel. Mould has been a problem, so while I had access this time I cleaned and sanded and painted with waterbased and a double-dose of anti mould additive.

Mould was a problem during our first trip south 2 years ago. Especially April and May when we had more condensation. I stripped the boat out after that, cleaned and painted with waterbased exterior house paint. No problem on the recent trip.

The photo shows a round hole in the background, that is a plastic hatch in the cockpit floor. It has a rubber seal built in and a textured surface. Works well.
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Re: Cruising with dogs

Post by rseydler » Mar 30th, '20, 08:40

Did you manage to get the screws out?

I'm also not a fan of expansion foam. People who have never seen it wet seem to love it.
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Re: Cruising with dogs

Post by PaulS » Mar 30th, '20, 09:31

Went to see a lovely timber cruising boat on a road transport trailer - looked great until you opened every hatch and cover and it was FULL of expanding foam.

I have a TK2 Fibreglass Kayak 35 years old and the only issue is the split seam where the expanding foam is....

Put me on this list of expanding foam dislikers.

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Re: Cruising with dogs

Post by Peridot » Mar 30th, '20, 19:57

No, I don't take the screws out, 8 + 19 = 27, don't countersink too deep. Drizzle on and off here at the moment, slow progress.


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Re: Cruising with dogs

Post by BillyStrodder » Jul 23rd, '20, 20:02

This is my old boat (now have a Farr 600) but Ralph goes everywhere with me!
Still have to do the boat toilet training with the fake turf but we will get there!
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Re: Cruising with dogs

Post by PaulS » Jul 25th, '20, 19:11

BillyStrodder wrote:
Jul 23rd, '20, 20:02
This is my old boat (now have a Farr 600) but Ralph goes everywhere with me!
Still have to do the boat toilet training with the fake turf but we will get there!
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Re: Cruising with dogs

Post by BillyStrodder » Aug 3rd, '20, 16:55

Thanks Paul S!
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Re: Cruising with dogs

Post by PaulS » Oct 14th, '20, 21:09

The thread inspired us to take our dog on a test cruise (tied to a floating jetty on a river) a few weeks ago, all went well so we took him to the Gippsland Lakes for 10 days, stayed each night at a jetty and he was fine. Wife is into the 10,000 steps a day thing so we walked most of the streets of Paynesville!

We will take him again and may brave an anchor night to see how he goes.

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Re: Cruising with dogs

Post by Furstin » Oct 14th, '20, 21:22

Just had the paddle board for lwe, a astro turf pad on bow and a couple ifvtrips to rocks and he was serviced.
Night in on sand at low tide tuckered him out...

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Re: Cruising with dogs

Post by Sue H » Oct 15th, '20, 06:26

PaulS wrote:
Oct 14th, '20, 21:09
The thread inspired us to take our dog on a test cruise (tied to a floating jetty on a river) a few weeks ago, all went well so we took him to the Gippsland Lakes for 10 days, stayed each night at a jetty and he was fine. Wife is into the 10,000 steps a day thing so we walked most of the streets of Paynesville!

We will take him again and may brave an anchor night to see how he goes.

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Oh well done. The pups just love walking the streets of Paynesville...so many furry friends to see and smells to take in. Our little JR has got too fat during lock down in Melbourne... that and a couple of surgeries over the past few months has changed her exercise habits. At least the "keep her quiet with minimal exercise" component of the healing hasn't been too arduous.. Can't wait now to be able to get back to the beautiful Lakes and pound the streets of Paynesville ourselves. We aren't quite brave enough to spend a night at anchor or on a buoy yet. Maybe the height of summer when the hours of darkness are less. We could empty the dog at last light and if necessary be up at first light. We tried training her to a fake grass patch in the cockpit which worked well until she was about 12 months old and then she refused to use it. Not sure I fancy having to negotiate a disembarkation into a rubber duck, dog under the arm in the middle of the night - In my chrystal ball I forsee a big splash

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Re: Cruising with dogs

Post by PaulS » Oct 15th, '20, 14:24

Our dog is an indoor dog at night and lasts dusk to dawn 99% of the time and he lasted overnight on the boat so there is hope for an anchored night!

Haven't tried the grass in the cockpit thing yet though...

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Re: Cruising with dogs

Post by Furstin » Oct 18th, '20, 07:45

Flynn, now he knows he'll get a trip ashore for a pee will tell us it's pee time, which is great on one hand but on the other telling him it's a bit late and to pee on the grass is harder!

Start it at home, take to boat.

On a small boat it's literally a double ended sword, you want to put it on the anchor locker, fine when it's cooler, but when summer comes and you want the forehatch open ........

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Re: Cruising with dogs

Post by impulse » Oct 18th, '20, 08:27

My bloke tried to wake me up at 0530 the first time, I hid under the covers and ignored him for an hour. He now waits until 0630.
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The old fella has it down pat but we are going to have our work cut out with the young bloke. :roll:
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Re: Cruising with dogs

Post by Furstin » Oct 18th, '20, 08:49

Look at all that room!

Looks very nice below mate.

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