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Trailerable trimarans

Post by wet-feet » Mar 27th, '21, 01:17

Anyone interested in getting a trimaran topic going?
Interesting stories
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Anything
Let’s see what happens

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Re: Trailerable trimarans

Post by rseydler » Mar 27th, '21, 09:30

Looks like you just started one :)

I've got a Scarab 16 and a Scarab 10.

What are you sailing?

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Re: Trailerable trimarans

Post by wet-feet » Mar 27th, '21, 09:54

After years of lurking on this site and hearing everyone’s stories I finally jumped in and bought a Corsair tri.
Am yet to sail it but have plenty of time off coming up so....

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Re: Trailerable trimarans

Post by wet-feet » Mar 27th, '21, 09:57

I’ve never seen a scarab in real life but they look like a great boat.
What area do you sail most.

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Re: Trailerable trimarans

Post by Jon » Mar 27th, '21, 11:51

My boat before last was a Virus Magnum 21 Tri, a French rarity in Australia. My kids still think it was a far better boat than the Elliott. It was a good boat with performance equivalent to a Farrier 680, Wetas beat it. I think of it as a family Weta. It was sold as the ladies in my family wanted a toilet compartment.

Pros:
-a fantastic swimming platform for the kids. Light downwind runs frequently had the kids jumping off the bow or tramps then grabbing a trailing rope and hauling themselves back in.
-lightweight, unsinkable (filled with bouyancy foam), centreboard, a reasonable performer up to 20kts windspeed.
-good for beach cruising camping
-could sail in shallow water with the board halfway up.
-could be a two cabin boat on the water with a pop up tent on each trampoline.
-2hp Yamaha pushed the boat along nicely and the boat didn't have to be registered
-the French breakback trailer was an oddball with independent suspension but it worked well.

Cons
-company stopped making tris, the telesopic beam outers were a custom extrusion, replacement beam outers were EU$2,000.
-original rudder and centre board were bits of plywood cut out, then beveled at 45 degrees at leading and trailing edge. Performance was greatly increased after I built a new set of foils.
-the small amas were the limiting factor to speed. It needed a lot of weight on the other ama with a long tiller extension to try and keep it flat.
-like all small tris they are dangerous beating to weather in a large swell. When the boat is loaded up and the swell is running in the same direction as the boats heading. The lee ama can be in the wave trough with the main hull on the wave crest. In a big swell the boat can overturn as the windward tramp acts like a sail. I came close to capsize once in Broken Bay.

A fun boat, did solo circumnavigations of French and Phillip Is etc. If I was to buy again I would buy a Corsair Pulse 600, all of the positives but better all round product.
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Re: Trailerable trimarans

Post by rseydler » Mar 27th, '21, 12:41

wet-feet wrote:
Mar 27th, '21, 09:57
I’ve never seen a scarab in real life but they look like a great boat.
What area do you sail most.
We sail at lake samsonvale, northside Brisbane.

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Re: Trailerable trimarans

Post by Even Keel » Mar 27th, '21, 17:48

I've got Farrier 24 MK2 and love it. It's a 25 year old boat with modern sails. Higher aspect square top main, matching roachy jib and maximised screecher. Hardly ever use spinnaker.
Trimarans are beautiful sailing boats. They sail like a high performance monohull but don't lean over. They just accelerate forwards.
Advice - don't be put off by the price. You will get most of it back when you sell it.
Concerns - they do have limitations downwind in steep ocean seas. They catch waves very easily and just want to plow into the next one. Also keep an eye on mechanics of folding system for missing bushes, cracks or if not lining up properly. Also insurance is an issue for some
Adventures - Many including coastal hops. Capricorn islands in a few weeks.
Highly recommended!

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Re: Trailerable trimarans

Post by rseydler » Mar 27th, '21, 21:06

Couple of youtube accounts from 3 hull members :)

Scott
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxjTPk ... LbLtp8u1ow

HJ
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCF1dI7 ... KIF1m6wcxw

although technically a member Mike doesn't post on here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2Hbrh ... I__SWzhkcg

and mine https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9ANtO ... B0-dIOCx1g

If you know of others feel free to add them.

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Re: Trailerable trimarans

Post by Rcracing2 » Mar 27th, '21, 21:37

I had a Crowther Buccaneer 24 for 12 years or so. It was probably not considered a trailerable though cause it had fixed beams. It was plywood and cost bugger all compared to a Corsair. The previous owner( a sailmaker) added a huge rig with square top main and masthead spinnaker. Great fun to about 15 knots then it was hard work. Ridiculously quick though for the price and age of the boat. When we moved to North Queensland i made a set of cruising sails for it( I'm also a sailmaker) and regularly singal handed it with an auto pilot and in about 12-15 knots id get around 7-8 knots upwind and windspeed downwind, all while staying flat. Tris are great boats and is have one in a heartbeat of i could afford a fully trailerable fibreglass model.

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Re: Trailerable trimarans

Post by wet-feet » Mar 28th, '21, 01:25

Rseydler
I hadn’t given any thought to sailing in lakes.
Are any like Wivenhoe deep and large enough to use with out old tree trunks taking out centre boards.

I can’t seem to find charts of any with a quick google.
Might be worth a look.

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Re: Trailerable trimarans

Post by Mojo » Mar 28th, '21, 08:02

I sail in Wivenhoe regularly. It is getting shallow, but still plenty to sail in.
I have seen exposed stumps around the edges as the water levels have dropped, but so far haven’t found anything whilst sailing.


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Re: Trailerable trimarans

Post by guzzis3 » Mar 28th, '21, 12:55

Buc plans are available free. It would be trivial to re-engineer one in foam glass. On boat design forum there is about a 2000 page thread on building them. The 28 plans are available free also.

Ray Kendrick sells his plans very cheap. I suppose it depends on what you want. The main reason I wouldn't have another tri is even at 30' you still don't get a decent double bed, unless you build a horstman :D

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Re: Trailerable trimarans

Post by wet-feet » Mar 29th, '21, 00:45

Enjoyed those YouTube vids. Makes me froth to get my boat out.
Also it sounds like good advice about floats digging in going with the swell.

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Re: Trailerable trimarans

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Re: Trailerable trimarans

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Post by wet-feet » Mar 30th, '21, 02:38





By the way , none of these are my vids

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Re: Trailerable trimarans

Post by Jon » Mar 30th, '21, 06:01

The Pulse looks a loverly boat and I like tris. But I can't get past I could buy an older F18 catamaran for a 1/3 of the price, it would be significantly faster on every point of sail. Also more seaworthy. With a few modifications and inflatable beach rollers the F18 would also make a better beach camp cruiser.

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Post by Even Keel » Mar 30th, '21, 07:12

My only experience with an F18 was spending 3 hours on a stinkin hot day working out how to rig it up for a mate. When we did finally get on the water it was a rocket ship but very complicated. Corsair / farrier tris are surprisingly simple.

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Re: Trailerable trimarans

Post by rseydler » Mar 30th, '21, 08:28

At least with the pulse you sit in it not on it Same with a WETA really. That was what sent me to a Scarab instead of buying a beach cat. I'll dig up some QLD YouTube pulse vids when I get to work. One of the Hobie guys also has a pulse.

I do think the pulse is pretty pricey for what it is, I do like the removable cabin top though and the custom mast stands.

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Re: Trailerable trimarans

Post by rseydler » Mar 30th, '21, 10:10

Surf to City last year.


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Re: Trailerable trimarans

Post by Jon » Mar 30th, '21, 12:56

rseydler wrote:
Mar 30th, '21, 08:28
At least with the pulse you sit in it not on it
I haven't experienced any type of boat that matches the comfort of a good harness whilst out on a trapeze

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Post by Castle 610 » Mar 30th, '21, 13:03

rseydler wrote:
Mar 30th, '21, 10:10
Surf to City last year.
Going nicely!
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Re: Trailerable trimarans

Post by wet-feet » Apr 3rd, '21, 03:19

Since Rseydler mentioned sailing on lakes I’ve been looking at as much info as I can. From wivenhoe to Somerset to maroon but have been mostly looking at Myall lakes.

The upper one seems to have the largest deep area for some good runs and plenty of gunk holes too.

I was wondering if any of you had launched there and if the ramps at violet hill or mungo brush are deep and steep enough for one of our larger boats.
Mines a 24’ tri.
I see on google there no pontoons but that shouldn’t be too bad....I hope😊
Have watched some utube stuff
If any one can give me a tip on these spots I’d appreciate it

Cheers every one and hope you fared well in the floods.

Tony

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Post by Even Keel » Apr 3rd, '21, 08:31

Hi Tony,
Violet hill is a steep ramp but LOTS of cross current so very tricky. Also a crappy dirt road to get there. Mungo Brush is very shallow but should be ok. I'd be going there as long as you don't have an unusually high trailer.

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Re: Trailerable trimarans

Post by wet-feet » Apr 3rd, '21, 12:02

Thanks even keel

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