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Easy drive up, trailer great. Overnight at mittagong by the lake. Early into Syd to find a tender, got one but boy it was interesting on the narrow lanes! Launch Roseville.... Very good ramp. Boat flew off the trailer but pulled up short at the end of the webbing, good thing as would have gone a long way. Perfect weather. Lucked the last public mooring at 6pm when a big stinkie called it a day. Very nice!

View from mooring - you'd never know this is in the heart of bustling Sydney http://youtu.be/agPetYcZKBw

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Overnight at mittagong by the lake
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Tied up at Roseville ready to go
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Heading down the upper reaches of middle harbour
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Hi Juskid that video taken in Bantry Bay


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Ric,

looks great - thanks for the reports - Sydney Harbour is definitely on our list. Just wondering what was the Roseville boat ramp like? Room for rigging a TS ok? Is parking expensive?

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Day 2 bantry bay to the spit

Sailed back to Roseville to go to the toilet, then tried to sail upwind into 10 building nor'easter back up to bantry bay then round the corner into sugarloaf. Gave up, massive lee helm and tacking every minute, plus couldn't point. Fired up iron spinnaker dropped genoa and motored up to the entry to sugarloaf.

insane houses

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Raised main and ran, reached and beat into very fickle breeze with the wind funnelling down from the hills in great spurts. Downwind into sugarloaf to check out the other moorings, they are deep in the bay. Turned around to beat back out and found I can't really go to windward just under main either. But persisted and came out, ran down to Northbridge Sailing club and watches the Optis and F11s getting trained. God the kids throw those little optimists about. They are also faster than Fair Haven (under main)

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Dropped main in sailors bay and motored up towards spit, thought I might go the other side but decided to wait till tomorrow. Picked up a short term mooring inside spit (2hrs) and rang Dalbora Marina. Yep they can fit me in, which is great, tonight's the first night for the crew and outside the marina it's incredibly rolly.

Wandered over to check out another club I raced at in the 80s MHYC. Massive kids program and they were having a ball.
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Relaxed, then realised had some maintenance to do. Went to find the replacement split link for anchor chain but it's nowhere. Pulled the old one off and basically came apart in the vice grips. Replaced it with a too-big gal shackle. It will probably catch but that's better than it letting go.

Realised I need to add seizing wire to my toolkit. Made shackle secure with a SS split pin.

Sat down and watched this monster come alongside, side on with wind and tide pushing it away from marina. Third approach he got it just right. Still, clif he broke it he could always get another one. Image

Good restaurants here ranging from places where the guy with the 80ft stinky would eat to a rib/pizza joint. Ribs for me! Signing off.


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 Post subject: Re: Sydney Harbour
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Day 3 spit to rush cutters bay

Ok coffee at 'plonk' other side of spit from Dalbora. Replaced ice - wow still lots of good ice - ice boxes are great, hadn't used mine before. Left at 930 to potter round before the bridge opening at 10:15. Raced thru, watched one boat miss it by 30 seconds, 2 hr wait for him. Cruised up along clontarf beach in close then into castle rock beach. Awesome spot on a Monday! Put fam in tender, got weight dist wrong and had 2" freeboard at stern. Made it. Swimming, crab hunting, sand castles, great bush walk.
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Big sail from castle rock to rushcutters bay. 18 kts in the beam and genoa up sitting on 5.5 kts up to the heads. Very lumpy

Bore off and check out watsons bay, no wind and lumpy. Came back into harbour and ran downwind for 1.5 hrs to cyca. Crew all asleep.

Checked into cyca, very busy spot. Small but good playground near here, follow the sea wall to the end.

Retired to cyca bistro, awesome linguini. Felt a few spots of rain then whoosh, 30kts from the north. I had doubled spring lines but went back to check anyway. All ok but v rolly now. Gave kid iPad and sat thru the rain and wind till it abated. Super calm now and warm (26deg), northerly blew itself out v quickly.

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 Post subject: Re: Sydney Harbour
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Hi duncan. Sorry missed your post. Roseville is pretty good, parking is very tight on weekend. The nearest shops are forestville where it is impossible to park with boat anywhere near the shops. I ended up walking 700m with shopping trolley full of provisions. Space for only three or four TS to rig up, the rest is not suitable (trees). I think derigging will be a prob as lots of overhanging trees in the exit section. Will report back when I know more. Stinkie owner most irate that I took my time manoeuvring l over to the drop off wharf so he cut in on me then yelled obscenities . F-wit. I politely. suggested he pick up sailing as it's great for blood pressure issues and I would want him to die of a heart attack just when I need to use the pontoon. So apart from that it's a thumbs up. Oh, one more thing. Parking is $7 a day and you can only get 5 days at a time, so if your planning more than that get a yearly pass (national park). I'll hear over in mums car on thu to top it up.


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 Post subject: Re: Sydney Harbour
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Day 4 cyca to Mosman and back

Woke to a brisk westerly so headed over to Mosman under motor, pottered up to Mosman rowers, I can't understand how so many people can afford these incredible houses. Anyhow, snuk around to Sirius cove and anchored in a metre of water, sand bottom. Great to get inside all the moorings. Awesome swim, big shallows,walk, relax. Breeze built and coming over the hill in bullets from all directions. Super sarca #3 held great getting pulled this way and that (6m rode all chain).
Slipped on rock and cut toe on oyster (injury #1)

Watched some kind of WWII fighter flying over the harbour (spitfire?)

Lunch then back out to harbour. Wind 25 kts gusting more and had to navigate across some form of race with the 100 footers getting ready for Hobart. Huge fleet of stinkies made a mess. Got picked up by a bunch of waves at once then dropped, heard a thump and scream. 4yo had done an accidental ninja leap across the cabin. No bones broken but bruised (injury #2).

Noticed no tell tale from yam8 about half way across so crossed fingers and pushed on. It kept going.

Pulled into pontoon, Rachael jumped off at the shrouds to tie up bow and concrete was massive hot, no blisters but v sore feet. (Injury #3).

Learnt: shoes, always unless walking on sand. When lumpy everyone's either in cockpit or lying down. Not scampering around inside.

Very quiet afternoon kicking back under the boom tent. 4 yo started a long career of cheating at UNO (gets it from his Dad)

No new pics today as swum from boat to beach.

Now to work out why no tell tale...


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 Post subject: Re: Sydney Harbour
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Day 4 cyca to Mosman and back

Woke to a brisk westerly so headed over to Mosman under motor, pottered up to Mosman rowers, I can't understand how so many people can afford these incredible houses. Anyhow, snuk around to Sirius cove and anchored in a metre of water, sand bottom. Great to get inside all the moorings. Awesome swim, big shallows,walk, relax. Breeze built and coming over the hill in bullets from all directions. Super sarca #3 held great getting pulled this way and that (6m rode all chain).
Slipped on rock and cut toe on oyster (injury #1)

Watched some kind of WWII fighter flying over the harbour (spitfire?)

Lunch then back out to harbour. Wind 25 kts gusting more and had to navigate across some form of race with the 100 footers getting ready for Hobart. Huge fleet of stinkies made a mess. Got picked up by a bunch of waves at once then dropped, heard a thump and scream. 4yo had done an accidental ninja leap across the cabin. No bones broken but bruised (injury #2).

Noticed no tell tale from yam8 about half way across so crossed fingers and pushed on. It kept going.

Pulled into pontoon, Rachael jumped off at the shrouds to tie up bow and concrete was massive hot, no blisters but v sore feet. (Injury #3).

Learnt: shoes, always unless walking on sand. When lumpy everyone's either in cockpit or lying down. Not scampering around inside.

Very quiet afternoon kicking back under the boom tent. 4 yo started a long career of cheating at UNO (gets it from his Dad)

No new pics today as swum from boat to beach.

Now to work out why no tell tale...


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 Post subject: Re: Sydney Harbour
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Odd, tell tale working again. Nice strong squirt. Maybe had a blockage. Whatever it is is likely to jam it up again. Just gave it a blow with compressed air but it's a tricky passage down past the iimpellor and unlikely to have shot it out the bottom. Any suggestions?


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 Post subject: Re: Sydney Harbour
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Salt encrusts the coldest part - the outlet.

The warmer water is, the more salt it can dissolve, so salt deposits tend to happen at the outlet where the surrounding aluminium is exposed to cooler ambient air.

If you clear it promptly with something suitable (pipe cleaner? straw? piece of wire? twig?) it shouldn't build up enough to cause any problem.

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I keep a piece of plastic whipper snipper cord in my tool box for this type of thing.
Flexible, doesnt rust and cheap.

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I had a rusty paperclip for the yammy 8 that I would give the tell tale a ream out (while running) once every few days out. Seems that they are more prone than other outboards ive owned.

Tunks has areas you can park car trailer without the fee.

CYC - you can usually get a spot close in for a small boat, but this time of year might make it harder.

Rowers: Pull up and tie off to scout pontoon mid week (you can't tie off to rowers pontoon due to a$$hole resident) for a beer at the rowers. Meal downstairs is good also.

Stop off at Clifton Gardens (Chowder bay) on the way back around to spit. Nice swimming (pool also) and coffee, anchor close in etc.

Sounds like a good trip!

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Day ummm....really in holiday mode, what day is it anyway?

Cyca to birkenhead

8-10kt westerly and sun beating down, our course is a good 5 NM to the west so left the boom tent up and motored thru. Left cyca about 10, motored throne and around garden island (Louis most impressed... Go get the bad guys!!), farm cove, black wattle bay. Thought about stopping but didn't. Through balmain birchgrove then down the inner harbour. Pointed out the faded graffiti that someone did to Greenwich sailing club where I spent 2 days a week for 8 years saying "hello Richard L", but too faded, much like my glorious racing days. Circumnavigated cockatoo island, told Louis and Rachael about the time I crashed into a submarine in my flying eleven. Arrived Birkenhead about 2pm, nearly fell off boat when sandal got stuck in boom tent guy line (reminder to self: shoes, not sandals or bare feet). Got allocated an aged but massive berth, big enough for even me to navigate into. Sushi late lunch the. Pack and wait 1:15hrs for a taxi to ryde. Dinner with sister and fam now tucked up in dentist one with Mum.

Tomorrow a lay day, Rachael working with the execs of Laing orourke so will head down to whitworths to get some dinghy rubber as Anthony (Louis' choice of name for the tender, also the name of his 17yo half brother) has been picking holes out of fair havens gelcoat.

Nice Pinot and Thai chicken salad tonight. Louis taught his step grandmother how to play UNO, very interesting rule interpretation as explained by a 4yo to a sixty-something. Still she managed to win one, which was the most surprising incident of the day.

Injuries: 1 hurt pride as I hopped along by the side of the boat with my heel stuck and the gap between the pontoon and the boat growing ever wider and wider. Didn't get wet tho. Had a shower today, even tho it's not Friday (I think)

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Day ummm....really in holiday mode, what day is it anyway?

Cyca to birkenhead

8-10kt westerly and sun beating down, our course is a good 5 NM to the west so left the boom tent up and motored thru. Left cyca about 10, motored in and around garden island (Louis most impressed... Go get the bad guys!!), farm cove, black wattle bay. Thought about stopping but didn't. Through balmain, long nose point, birchgrove then down the inner harbour. Pointed out the faded graffiti that someone did to Greenwich sailing club where I spent 2 days a week for 8 years saying "hello Richard L", but too faded, much like my glorious racing days. Circumnavigated cockatoo island, told Louis and Rachael about the time I crashed into a submarine in my flying eleven. Arrived Birkenhead about 2pm, nearly fell off boat when genuine Burke sailing sandal got stuck in boom tent guy line (reminder to self: shoes, not sandals or bare feet). Got allocated an aged but massive berth, big enough for even me to navigate into. Sushi late lunch then pack and wait 1:15hrs for a taxi to Ryde. Dinner with sister and fam now tucked up in denistone with Mum.

Tomorrow a lay day, Rachael working with the execs of Laing o'rourke so will head down to whitworths to get some dinghy rubber as Anthony (Louis' choice of name for the tender, also the name of his 17yo brother) has been picking holes out of fair havens gelcoat.

Nice Pinot and Thai chicken salad tonight. Louis taught his step grandmother how to play UNO, very interesting rule interpretation as explained by a 4yo to a sixty-something. Still she managed to win one, which was the most surprising incident of the day.

Injuries: 1 hurt pride as I hopped along by the side of the boat with my heel stuck and the gap between the pontoon and the boat growing ever wider and wider. Didn't get wet tho. Had a shower today, even tho it's not Friday (I think)

Here's a shot of the harbour bridge as we sailed thru
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Day 7 Birkenhead to balmoral then MHYC

After two lay days due to work commitments we slept again on fairhaven at Birkenhead. Woke to a 12kt sou'wester, perfect for our rendezvous at balmoral late morning. Cast off and set big jib and main while the crew caught up on sleep.

Breeze suddenly built to 20kts from SE as we passed balmains long nose point. Overpowered and slack foot and halyards going upwind now. Dipped the rails in the water a couple of times as bullets came thru. Under harbour bridge very shifty and fluky, no wind then 20kts, caused a couple of round ups.

In the lee of fort denison got Rachael up top and dropped genoa as we turned off the wind for a great reach under main to middle head. Avg 6kts which is very quick for this old girl with tender.

Rounded middle head and coasted up to balmoral. Perfect spot in a soueaster. Raised keel and backed up to beach. Grateful for new stern anchor.

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Sat there calmly and played until family arrived.

Shook dad out of the urn and sent a few lilies off as well

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The short motor down to MHYC and glad to get a hand docking as breeze still v strong.

Deciding on whether to shower....

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I have enjoyed your trip , definitely one to remember
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Agree. The harbour is a great family sailing destination. There is nowhere else on the world like it. Imo.

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Thanks all yes it was a memorable holiday . Learnt heaps and had great fun.

Day 8 middle harbour to yass.

Woke to slight drizzle so had a bunch of coffees from the yacht club cafe. Played around on the sand then waved goodbye to Louie and Rachael who booked a car to the airport.

Tidied up boat stowed sails and went under the bridge at 2:30
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Quick run down to Roseville tie up and get trailer.

Cross wind at the ramp and I couldn't work out how to get the boat straight. A fisho helped and got his son to hold a stern line. Winched up easy then stopped. I hadn't been watching the rollers and now I was off the rollers and hearing a grinding sound. Tried to push off trailer but nup, stuck. Reversed in as far as I dared and eventually floated boat off. Tried again, the guy who runs Boab Boat Hire was really helpful, big thumbs up for his assistance. Got it on straight finally and new rollers worked a treat but boy she's a heavy beast.

Only took 2 hrs to derig which is a record , then remembered I had to strap Anthony down so spent another 30 mins working out the best spot to put a 7ft tender (cockpit on its side if you were wondering). Spent 25 mins exiting roseville (the on ramps and exits both go the wrong way if you want to go/come from the city side).

Quarter tank of fuel so thought I'd fill up. Thing is, all the servos up there are tiny so decided to get petrol the other side of city. Under tunnels and out to nearly Campbeltown and haven't seen a servo yet... Eek trip computer says I have 23 km to go, one decent hill climb will use half of that so pulled off freeway to hunt down some fuel.

Stopped now outside Yass for the night. Melbourne tomoz and maybe also thru to Paynesville for summer/autumn storage/sailing.

Final thoughts:
* yamaha 8 does not stop the boat well in reverse , compared to original yam 15
* When sailing one-up set sail settings to most conservative before you need it (vang, luff tension, out haul etc)
* Sydney Harbour is a gem, could have done another week easily, but next stop Gipps Lakes and next year probably Pittwater
* because we stayed in marinas we didn't use stove or exploder once as had the luxury of eating out each night (if you call pizza eating out)
* saw Matt Belcher (470s) at middle harbour YC - lovely guy v engaging high fived Louie and The 4yo most impressed he has met the worlds most champion sailor who can sail his boat 10 out of 10. Also bumped into John Eales and Jessica Watson
* met jock Sturrock twice and load of other yachties.
* The laser sailors from MH amateurs were complete knobheads, even tho I did a season there (before retreating to lick my wounds)




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Sounds like a awesome trip, thanks so much for the trip report.

My Yamaha 8Hp stops me on a dime in reverse, I was being pushed into the pier at Warneet with the incoming tide (around 4 knots) and I wacked her into reverse and gave her a rev and she just took off backwards at a good rate considering the strength of the current.

Maybe the angle you have the motor adjusted to is not letting the prop bite well.

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 Post subject: Re: Sydney Harbour
PostPosted: Dec 16th, '13, 19:50 
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Ric,
Sounds like a great trip and has given me some ideas for next year.

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 Post subject: Sydney Harbour
PostPosted: Dec 16th, '13, 20:58 
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Hey Ric not sure if you are keen but would be nice to see a google earth image with your approximate trip plotted over it. Just for us out of towners to get a better idea. Looked and sounded like a fun time.

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 Post subject: Re: Sydney Harbour
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Hi Tumbleweed,
That was a really good suggestion. I've basically mapped out the trip here.

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