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PostPosted: Feb 10th, '18, 18:22 
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I saw these and thought they would be good for tie downs, yes, they actually work on rope from 5-8mm.
After a play around with them I thought I may get a couple to keep aboard as an emergency cam cleat if something breaks.
$9.98 each and work very well.


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Ah, What are they exactly?


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PostPosted: Feb 10th, '18, 20:24 
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A double cleat to join two lines or put in the middle of a line to shorten the single line.

I believe the lines come in the center hole onto the cleats with the tails held in the slots on the ends.

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PostPosted: Feb 10th, '18, 20:25 
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run one rope through one end and loop back through the cleat, repeat on the other side then tension.
Works like a joiner but thought could be used as a jury rig if you break a cleat by tying it to a solid fitting.
Got these to hold loads on my trailer and able to move the join so it doesn't apply pressure to points I don't want it to.
Quite simple but very effective, I don't know what the load rating is but it did support my 35kg kayak with no problems.

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Never seen the likes before.
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Can't seem to find them on the website, can you give us more hints?


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If you have a line trapped on a winch due to overlap and tension, you could avoid needing a snotter knot on the loaded line and use one of these cleats to take the tension before cutting or releasing the line.

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INMA wrote:
If you have a line trapped on a winch due to overlap and tension, you could avoid needing a snotter knot on the loaded line and use one of these cleats to take the tension before cutting or releasing the line.


Somehow I can't see how it would be possible to attach that gadget to a bar taut rope and hold sufficiently to overpower the winch tension.
I'd prefer a constrictor hitch for that job.


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Can't seem to find them on the website, can you give us more hints?

not on the website as far as I can tell but they are on a hanger in the rope section, could be a limited release or just trialing them but for $10 I thought they were OK.
Could also be handy for joining a rope to a shock cord for a boom tent or something that is subject to some movement allowing adjustment to either.

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AZ100, put the tight line between the two cleats, thread a new line through the center hole, over the line and back then tie a loop with a bowline. When you pull the bowline, it hauls the taught line into the cleats which should take the line load. I'm not sure the cleats would take the types of loads on a winched line.

I suspect a constrictor hitch is similar to a snotter knot. I worked in cable hauling where the snotter was a wire mesh tube that was installed over a cable end then used to haul the cable. The snotter knot was a line whipped around a cable in a way that tightened under load so you could haul the cable with a rope.

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Neat idea - takes those clam cleat bungy straps to a new level.

But why keep them as an emergency cam cleat when the real thing is only $15 ?

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Saw two of them on a tradies ute on Friday "holding" his ladders on to the racks.
Both were broken!


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pdandy wrote:
Neat idea - takes those clam cleat bungy straps to a new level.

But why keep them as an emergency cam cleat when the real thing is only $15 ?

Don't know what is going to break and what you may need to do to get home, just seemed like a good idea for a temporary quick fix and doesn't take upm a lot of room.
They may be a disaster but for $10 (each) they seemed OK.

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“AZ100, put the tight line between the two cleats, thread a new line through the center hole, over the line and back then tie a loop with a bowline. When you pull the bowline, it hauls the taught line into the cleats which should take the line load. I'm not sure the cleats would take the types of loads on a winched line.”

To me it seems the cleats go the other way, if you do this you clamp the cleats.

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