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Is this NAVIONICS app worth making "Sticky" for a while?

Post by SeawayVolcano » Nov 25th, '13, 10:57

Just wondering if it is worth making this a sticky post for a little while so some members can copy the link.

http://navionics.com/en/webapp

I can't find it posted on TSP anywhere, but I use it a lot for quickly looking at charts when I can't be bothered digging out my paper charts or my Android tablet with Navionics.

You can't actually 'do' anything with it, but it can show some more detail than what you get on the paper charts and the tablet apps.

For example, pick a spot where you know people go fishing and click the 'Sonar Charts' button at the bottom left corner of the screen. Check the contour lines!

I'm using it in Firefox, but it seems fine in Chrome.
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Post by Slammin » Nov 25th, '13, 22:18

Great find Ross.

It has a lot more detail and notes than my Garmin Maps. Didn't realise there was so much unexploded ordinance risks around here. :shock:

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Post by sailboatmike » Nov 26th, '13, 07:36

I often use the online version for making plans of all the spots we would like to visit
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Post by aFT » Nov 26th, '13, 10:20

I can recommend this app. It cost me $13.99 and is on my iPad - which has gps. Whilst the chart itself may have some inaccuracies, I use it to plot my tracks in the very shallow waters in the lakes and rivers.
The tracks can then be transferred to Google earth - which gives you a brilliant assessment as to where you have been - showing all the tacks, as well as the landmarks on Google earth.
A feature that I really like is the ability to take photos using navionics, and the photos get saved to the track at the point where you took the photo. So I take photos of landmarks, shallow areas, beacons etc - and then write a commentary to go with each image for next time.
Not sure how totally accurate the GPS is, but for me, it does a really great job and has allowed me to plot and save specific tracks as well as find previously used anchorages etc.
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Post by sailboatmike » Nov 26th, '13, 10:31

I have found that GPS's in phones, tablets etc are normally good to around 20 meters depending on the number of satelittes available at the time
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Post by SeawayVolcano » Nov 26th, '13, 14:34

The thing about this particular app is that it is not the iphone, android or computer app that you can buy.
This is a straight out web browser app for just viewing places in higher detail than the paid tablet apps.

I use it for viewing the waters around the resort Jo's family are building on Isla Verde in Batangas (Philippines). It also shows considerably more detail in most Aussie places, than the current android app. I believe iphone is already more detailed than the android one.

I can take some screen shots of the higher detail anchorages and save them, to use in conjunction with the Navionics full app, and screenshots from google earth.
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Post by zebedee » Nov 26th, '13, 15:41

SeawayVolcano wrote:...It also shows considerably more detail in most Aussie places, than the current android app. I believe iphone is already more detailed than the android one.
So it's not indicative of the detail available on the Navionics android app?
As in, the android app shows even less?

Navionics (from the website) detail collapses west of Fraser Island in the Gippsland Lakes:
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The detail ends right where it gets "interesting"!

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The entrance to Bunga Arm is a real test of any chart for the area:
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That's a bit disappointing.

The last image is a 100dpi scan extract from the Spatial Vision Gippsland Lakes Outdoor Recreation Guide Map

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Post by RockMan » Nov 26th, '13, 19:54

The Navonics is a marine system. It does not have much inland coverage. Lake Macquarie is the same, especially the Swansea Channel.

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Post by IanB » Nov 27th, '13, 17:40

The on-line app is interesting, specially to check out locations when reading articles in " Cruising Helmsman" and the like, where they typically rabbit on about sailing from A to B against a wind from a certain direction, and it is meaningless without a chart. However, there is no legend, so how does one know what the depth lines represent. Metres? Fathoms? Feet?
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Post by sailboatmike » Nov 27th, '13, 17:48

depths are in meters on the web app
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Post by timfnz » Nov 28th, '13, 09:03

Also useful is Geogarage , as you can plot courses and see distances in nautical miles, and it has a satellite overlay also..

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Post by SeawayVolcano » Dec 9th, '13, 13:51

My bad... I forgot some of us are lucky enough to have lakes - especially the big ones. I should have said 'many' locations :-)
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Post by zebedee » Dec 9th, '13, 20:37

I still lust after a chart plotter from time to time; the Navionics site helps provide a reality check...
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Post by SeawayVolcano » Dec 12th, '13, 09:42

This post has probably served its purpose. I think any one that might benefit from it has probably read it :-)
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Post by snoopebj » Jan 28th, '14, 18:36

Just a note that this app does not work on Aldi Android smartphones don't know about their tablets etc but check compatibility. Navionics refused a refund saying I should have checked compatibility first.
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Post by IanB » Jan 28th, '14, 19:16

Emrys, I have the Navionics app on my Aldi Android pad, and it works fine. However it is the paid Austrasia version, not the free web map.
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Post by sailboatmike » Jan 28th, '14, 19:24

snoopebj wrote:Just a note that this app does not work on Aldi Android smartphones don't know about their tablets etc but check compatibility. Navionics refused a refund saying I should have checked compatibility first.
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I have the Aldi smart phone and Navionics works fine, I bought the phone a couple of months ago after my LG took a swim and it loaded fine.

The question is are you trying to run the tablet version ($50) on a phone, as the phone version dosnt work on the tablet I presume the opposite is true
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Post by snoopebj » Jan 28th, '14, 22:23

It's the earlier Aldi Dual sim smartphone March 2013 running Android 4.1 and Navionics have told me these phones with the earlier version of Android are not compatible with their app. It loads up ok then gives an error " Unfortunately Australia and NZ have stopped"
They also said no refund as I bought the app through Google (don't Google sell the app under a Navionics licence anyway?)
$13.99 not a great deal of money but still frustrating.
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Post by sailboatmike » Jan 28th, '14, 22:27

Thats the $149 ($129 now phone) 4 Inch screen, thats the one I have and it works well
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Post by snoopebj » Jan 28th, '14, 22:37

mine was the $199 ASP-4500Z model - I suspect yours has a later version of Android which ties up with the Navionics explanation why your later model works and mine doesn't,
Thanks for your input I think I just have to lump it.
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Post by ricdanger » Jan 31st, '14, 17:30

snoopebj wrote:Just a note that this app does not work on Aldi Android smartphones don't know about their tablets etc
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Hi all, can confirm that Navionics HD works a treat on the 10" Aldi tablet, currently marked down to $229 where you can get them.

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Post by Iancoombe » Feb 1st, '14, 17:11

Hi all
Just as an aside we have just completed 6weeks cruising around Cambodia we used nothing but navonics no paper charts were available but we saw one in the harbour captains office and it was so inaccurate as to dangerous.
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Post by SeawayVolcano » Mar 4th, '14, 11:26

Because this thread is still pinned, I thought I'd mention Navionics has just announced a NEW Android app. It is just like the OLD app, but does a few pretty things with depth shading etc. Still no proper nav functions beyond what is in the old app. The difference is that it is only designed to work on tablets, where the existing app works on phones as well.

However, in the same release they said they are adding the Nav functions soon, to make the tablet function as a proper chart plotter.

The bad news? The App is free to download and install, but you have to buy your charts again (about $50 for Android version). Also, the nav function is still not available.

I think I'll wait until the Nav function is added before I install this. Until then, the simple Route and Track functions in the current App are fine for day to day trailer sailing where most of the time a destination is almost in line of sight.
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Post by zebedee » Mar 4th, '14, 12:27

Is the old app still available?

I've been thinking of getting a tablet, with Navionics and OziExplorer as excuses...
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Post by SeawayVolcano » Mar 4th, '14, 13:33

Is the old app still available?
I've been thinking of getting a tablet, with Navionics and OziExplorer as excuses..
It is not showing in Android Play Store on mine just now.
At any rate, the new App is free to download. Once there you pay about the same for the charts, as you did to buy HD version of the old App. So it will work out about the same.
And you get some more features than we have now.
And the nav module should be available soon (at a nominal charge, last I heard was $5)
And the whole lot will be cheaper than the charts alone for a chart plotter.

As it is you could plan and plot and save routes, and display and record record your track, overlaid on the planned route.

What you don't get is ETA to points and elapsed times etc. but for TS, many of us are usually working on trips of 10 to 20 miles at 5 knots. It is pretty easy to work out, especially if you are looking at the screen and a watch.

Old App is called Navionics Marine (Australia & New Zealand), or Navionics marine (Europe) etc. and each is bought separately.

New App is called Navionics Boating. Once you download it for free you buy the regional charts instead of installing a separate App each time. Sort of makes sense.

Also, once you have a tablet, get Sail Droid. Gives you readout of speed, direction etc with nice big numbers.

My favourite tablet was my old Motorola Xoom 10 inch, but I am beginning to like the much brighter screen of the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1.

Now they are superseded they are around at under $300. Slipped into a waterproof cover they are great.

Aus and NZ charts for entire area are $60. So something like a superseded Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 and the charts would be around $350. Cheap disposable chart plotter.

I just downloaded the new version. It does NOT pick up my already installed charts (the old App). On the other hand, installing the new version did not affect my old one.
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