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PostPosted: Jun 19th, '17, 20:23 
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Has anyone bought sails from Asia or Indo ?
Any feedback or suggestions ?
I don't want to enter into the escape spending argument please.

Ive contacted a couple of overseas lofts for quotes, but it seems they always flick me onto the Aussie distributor.
I want to deal directly with the sailmaker, not someone who is taking a cut for onsending it to me.

Sail will be a main for a ross780.


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PostPosted: Jun 19th, '17, 22:05 
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Not in Asia but USA, Hyde sails direct

Beware importing, if it goes above $1000Au you have to pay GST, plus 5% duty, plus a document fee of around $65 to customs through Australia Post. Also if customs are holding parcels for you they add the value of all the parcels together

I bought in a new Doyle Jib, Main and Assy in three separate parcels from the USA, total cost including postage was $2700

Edit: Sorry it wasnt $2700Au, it was $2800Au which also included a single line reefing kit and a 2 to 1 power outhaul kit plus another $20 of various bits and bobs

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PostPosted: Jun 19th, '17, 22:22 
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That sounds pretty good Mike.
How long ago did you buy them ?

I asked for a quote from Hyde Sails in Phillipines ? or somewhere maybe Hong Kong or Thailand ? ?and they flicked it back to Hyde Sails Australia !
WTF, if I wanted a quote from Hyde Sails Australia I would have contacted them.


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That sounds pretty good Mike.
How long ago did you buy them ?

I asked for a quote from Hyde Sails in Phillipines ? or somewhere maybe Hong Kong or Thailand ? ?and they flicked it back to Hyde Sails Australia !
WTF, if I wanted a quote from Hyde Sails Australia I would have contacted them.


The last of mine landed last week, they are all still here in the lounge room.

Hyde Sails Direct being mostly internet based are allowed to sell to Australia, I dont think the other Hyde sails are.

Judy is excellent and very knowledgeable. http://www.hydesailsdirect.com/

Also Peak Sails look good, heard some good things about them, cheap for high performance sails IMHO https://www.peaksailsna.com/

I didnt end up buying from Hyde, I bought from Blue Water Yachts who specialize in Macgregor stuff and get 100's of sails made up at a time through Doyle (benefit of having a high production boat) so pass on the mass production savings

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PostPosted: Jun 19th, '17, 22:41 
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Thanks, I'll contact Hyde direct and Peak and see what they say.
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PostPosted: Jun 19th, '17, 23:15 
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You can play Hyde and Peak with them. :roll:

Coops.

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You can play Hyde and Peak with them. :roll:

Coops.


That is pretty bad even for your standards Coops

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As a side note, my Dad bought his from Lamb Sailmakers of Hong Kong in about 1975. I did a google search and it eventually turned out that they are now Far East Sails. They told me that if they made our original sails, then they would still have all the details and measurements. Cool hey!


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I have seen some good reviews about Far East sails. Seems decent pricing too.

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I am just in the process of getting a new main and stack-pack from fareast sails.
I bought a main and genoa for my last boat from them and wast really impressed with their profesionalism and pricing. They also garantee that it will take four weeks max to make and send you the sails. All the gst and postage is included in the quote.
The only thing they cant send are the battens which is understandable

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sailboatmike wrote:

Beware importing, if it goes above $1000Au you have to pay GST, plus 5% duty, plus a document fee of around $65 to customs through Australia Post. Also if customs are holding parcels for you they add the value of all the parcels together



If I am not mistaken, the government will be introducing GST for purchases less than $1k on July 1. (I have only taken passing notice of this so there may be more to the story that I am aware of)


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I brought from Far East Sails about 18months -2 years ago.
No complaints. They delivered what they said they would as scheduled. Came with batterns too


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yeah talking to Fareast Sails at the moment.

They have provided quotes for 3 different types of fabric. Our main will be for racing only. Most likely tri radial.

Challenge Matrix (woven) $1388 USD
Challenge Ward Drive (woven) $1085 USD
Contender ZZP (laminate) $1150 USD

From all reports the woven sailcloths should be a good balance of performance (tri radial cut), economy, and longevity. Laminate will look cool for a while but may not last as long.

Mojo, Lloyd, can you remember what sort of cloth you went with ?


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If I am not mistaken, the government will be introducing GST for purchases less than $1k on July 1. (I have only taken passing notice of this so there may be more to the story that I am aware of)


Yesterdays news. Literally. It was postponed to next year; announced yesterday.

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I think I have Contender challenger performance cruise. It's Dacron.


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PostPosted: Jun 21st, '17, 00:26 
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So a Ross 780 main for around $1200. I got quoted $2600 for Castle main locally today!

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davem wrote:
sailboatmike wrote:

Beware importing, if it goes above $1000Au you have to pay GST, plus 5% duty, plus a document fee of around $65 to customs through Australia Post. Also if customs are holding parcels for you they add the value of all the parcels together



If I am not mistaken, the government will be introducing GST for purchases less than $1k on July 1. (I have only taken passing notice of this so there may be more to the story that I am aware of)


Not sure they will get it through on time, only a couple of sitting days before winter playtime Recess

That is still a hang over from last years budget

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PostPosted: Jun 21st, '17, 12:32 
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Castle 610 wrote:
So a Ross 780 main for around $1200. I got quoted $2600 for Castle main locally today!


That's USD prices


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So a Ross 780 main for around $1200. I got quoted $2600 for Castle main locally today!


That's USD prices


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So add 1/3 approx. so $1600

Australian sail makers seem very expensive compared to the prices around the world.

My Jib was US$ 510 with Sunbrella protection on the foot and leach made from 5.5 Oz High Modulus Dacron
Main was US$725 with 2 reefs, loose foot and Jacklines (so you can reef with the sail slide stop in place) made from 5.5 Oz High Modulus Dacron
Assy was US$679 Nylite 90 / Tri-radial cut

They are all made by Doyle and I know they are not super high performance but I recon that may of been overkill for a Mac X

I then got US$30 per sail taken off the above prices toward postage as the advertised prices for sails include postage in the USA

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PostPosted: Jun 21st, '17, 17:57 
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Come on guys, fork out a few extra bucks to support your local sailmaker !

I actually bought a new main locally but can understand buying from overseas to save a few hundred bucks.

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Come on guys, fork out a few extra bucks to support your local sailmaker !

I actually bought a new main locally but can understand buying from overseas to save a few hundred bucks.

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For a few hundred I would of been more than happy to get them made in Australia, but we are talking well over a thousand for my 3 sails probably more than just one thousand too.

Also there some Australian sail makers which are really just agents for Asian sailmakers.

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Yep my main is 6.11oz challenge warp drive tri radial which is recomended for racer-cruiser sails
cost withtwo reefs full battens and bag is $832 USD =$1100AUS
Also getting a stack pac for $270 USD = $359.86 AUS
this includes all slugs/slides, batten pockets,sail logo and number and postage to my door
Can't complain about that! And yes, unfortunately most Aussie sailmakers get their sails sewn in asia now.

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PostPosted: Jun 22nd, '17, 00:34 
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Had a local quote for a new main 2 weeks ago, a bit over $2000 .
Thats a very long way past $1100

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Well l got a local quote today for the same sail using the same fabric. Instead of $2650 the price was $1440. So $1200 cheaper!
Not saying the more expensive sail isn't good value more saying cheaper local prices are possible.
Happy to provide details via PM.

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PostPosted: Jun 22nd, '17, 22:25 
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Castle 610 wrote:
Well l got a local quote today for the same sail using the same fabric. Instead of $2650 the price was $1440. So $1200 cheaper!
Not saying the more expensive sail isn't good value more saying cheaper local prices are possible.
Happy to provide fetails via PM.



Sure Stephen, PM away !
Assuming that's 2 local sailmakers quoting on the same specs, that's a big difference in price. Are you sure the second quotes not for a number 3 headsail ? ?


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